Podcast
Every survivor has a story, and every experience of murder-suicide loss is unique. The MSL Network podcast creates space for survivor voices and meaningful conversations about grief, trauma, healing, support, and life after loss. Through personal stories and educational discussions, we hope listeners find connection, understanding, and the reminder that they are not alone.
Murder suicide is a kind of tragedy that leaves everyone asking why. That's what we're figuring out by asking the people who've lived through it. In contrast to the sensational media coverage of true crime, we aim to show our viewers and our listeners a real up close and accurate look at murder suicide, the risk factors, the personal experience and the aftermath. In our podcast, the lived person, the person who's been through it is the expert.
Conversations about Grief, Healing, And Support
Murder-suicide leaves loved ones, friends, and community members feeling with traumatic grief and survivors guilt. Sometimes families are ripped apart because of the losses. Sometimes our losses lead us to become advocates.
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We welcome you to learn more about our stories. By telling them we are hoping to reduce the shame and stigma that survivors feel. In our Online Support Groups we offer survivors a chance to tell their own stories.
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Our support groups talk feature important topics such as anniversaries and holidays, days which can be particularly hard when you've lost a loved one. We discuss self-care and returning to everyday life. We discuss our experiences with the media and social media. We learn and heal through these conversations, sharing space with other survivors.
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Please check out Psychology Today's Find-a-Therapist Tool, or our Resources for Adults or Adolescents if you'd like to learn more. Contact Us if you'd like more support from our team.
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​MSL Network brings advocacy and awareness to murder-suicide loss. If you are a survivor, join us.
If you'd like to donate to our cause, please check out our Fundraising page
Why We Made The Final Act
I think when you're looking at any kind of violence, whether it's self-directed or whether it's directed toward other people, there's always a story that that person is telling him or herself.
And it's a story that, in these cases obviously have a tragic and deadly ending.
But I think if we could understand that story, maybe, we could understand how to recognize when that story starts so that we can interrupt it or at least create a different ending for that person.
When I was in graduate school there was this thinking that there were kind of internalizers and there were externalizers. And so it was almost like people who would commit suicide would never commit murder. And people who would commit murder are never going to commit suicide. And we certainly know that that is not true.
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As a matter of fact, we know that in some situations, that somebody who is suicidal such as murder -suicide, that murder-suicide often starts with depression and thoughts of suicide. And at some point that person decides to take somebody else with them. And so, that, I guess, is a new idea to me, when I read this, that's been backed up by the what research is out there.

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